Legislature(2007 - 2008)

04/04/2007 03:05 PM House L&C


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03:06:00 PM HB170
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          HOUSE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                         
                         April 4, 2007                                                                                          
                           3:05 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kurt Olson, Chair                                                                                                
Representative Mark Neuman, Vice Chair                                                                                          
Representative Carl Gatto                                                                                                       
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux                                                                                                 
Representative Jay Ramras                                                                                                       
Representative Robert L. "Bob" Buch                                                                                             
Representative Berta Gardner                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 170                                                                                                              
"An  Act  relating  to  annual  audit  reports  by  insurers,  to                                                               
custodians of  insurer assets,  to writing  workers' compensation                                                               
insurance by surplus lines insurers,  to reports by surplus lines                                                               
insurers,  to the  definition of  'wet marine  and transportation                                                               
insurance,'   to  false   or   misleading  financial   statements                                                               
concerning insurance audits, and to  the membership of the Alaska                                                               
Life  and Health  Insurance Guaranty  Association; and  providing                                                               
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 170 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 65                                                                                                               
"An  Act  relating to  breaches  of  security involving  personal                                                               
information,  credit report  and credit  score security  freezes,                                                               
consumer  credit  monitoring,   credit  accuracy,  protection  of                                                               
social security  numbers, care of  records, disposal  of records,                                                               
identity  theft, furnishing  consumer credit  header information,                                                               
credit cards,  and debit  cards, and to  the jurisdiction  of the                                                               
office  of  administrative  hearings; amending  Rule  60,  Alaska                                                               
Rules of Civil Procedure; and providing for an effective date."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - BILL HEARING CANCELED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 170                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: INSURANCE                                                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): LABOR & COMMERCE BY REQUEST                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
03/01/07       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/01/07       (H)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
03/23/07       (H)       L&C AT 3:00 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                              
03/23/07       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/23/07       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
04/04/07       (H)       L&C AT 3:00 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LINDA HALL, Director                                                                                                            
Division of Insurance                                                                                                           
Department of Community & Economic Development                                                                                  
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented HB 170.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MAX MERTZ, Certified Public Accountant (CPA);                                                                                   
Partner                                                                                                                         
Elgee Rehfeld Mertz, LLC                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during hearing on HB 170.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JOHN GEORGE, representing                                                                                                       
The American Council of Life Insurance                                                                                          
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 170.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KURT  OLSON called  the House  Labor and  Commerce Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order at  3:05:32  PM.    Representatives                                                             
Gardner, Gatto, Neuman, Buch, and  Olson were present at the call                                                               
to  order.   Representatives  Ramras and  LeDoux  arrived as  the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 170-INSURANCE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:06:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  announced that the  only order of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  170, "An Act relating to annual  audit reports by                                                               
insurers, to  custodians of insurer  assets, to  writing workers'                                                               
compensation insurance  by surplus lines insurers,  to reports by                                                               
surplus  lines insurers,  to the  definition of  'wet marine  and                                                               
transportation  insurance,'  to  false  or  misleading  financial                                                               
statements concerning insurance audits,  and to the membership of                                                               
the Alaska  Life and Health  Insurance Guaranty  Association; and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:06:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LINDA  HALL, Director,  Division of  Insurance ("The  Division"),                                                               
Department  of   Commerce,  Community,  &   Economic  Development                                                               
(DCCED),  explained  that  several   of  the  domestic  insurance                                                               
companies that  are regulated by  the Division had  concerns with                                                               
HB  170.   After  meeting  to discuss  these  concerns, both  the                                                               
Division and  the companies  in question are  in agreement.   The                                                               
requirements contained in  the bill are not  new requirements, as                                                               
was  previously  discussed.     These  companies  have  suggested                                                               
language  changes that  Ms. Hall  has  agreed to  consider.   She                                                               
stated  that  she does  not  want  the  requirements to  be  more                                                               
onerous  than  is  needed  for the  companies  regulated  by  the                                                               
Division.  She is particularly  interested in giving the Division                                                               
statutory authority  to adopt the regulations  needed to maintain                                                               
accreditation.   She opined  that this is  important to  both the                                                               
insurance companies and consumers.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON stated  that he has been contacted by  several of the                                                               
insurance companies,  adding that the companies  are appreciative                                                               
that  Ms. Hall  is working  with them  to address  concerns.   He                                                               
commented that this is a work  in progress, and that more work is                                                               
likely to be  done before the bill is heard  in the House Finance                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:08:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN commented  on the  good work  done by  Ms.                                                               
Hall.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:08:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUCH   inquired  as  to  whether   the  statutory                                                               
requirement is a "housekeeping requirement."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HALL replied no.  She  explained that there are provisions in                                                               
current statute  that require  the insurers  to follow  the audit                                                               
instructions on  the annual statement.   These  instructions will                                                               
no  longer be  in statute  as of  2009.   The Division  has added                                                               
minimum  statutory language  which gives  the authority  to adopt                                                               
the National Association of  Insurance Commissioners (NAIC) model                                                               
regulations.      These   regulations   reiterate   the   current                                                               
requirements.   She  pointed out  that there  are 2  requirements                                                               
that are  not currently accreditation  standards, but are  in the                                                               
process.   This includes  a requirement  for an  audit committee,                                                               
and  a management  report of  internal controls.   She  explained                                                               
that  the  regulations  to  be   adopted  include  standards  for                                                               
independent  directors,  along  with requirements  for  insurance                                                               
companies  that  meet certain  thresholds.    She explained  that                                                               
depending on  which threshold  is exceeded,  there are  a certain                                                               
amount of  outside directors.   There are no companies  in Alaska                                                               
that  meet these  thresholds, and  only 179  companies meet  them                                                               
nationwide.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:10:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO, referring to the  word "require" on Page 2,                                                               
line  14,   asked  whether  an   "order"  is  different   than  a                                                               
"directive."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HALL replied  that  "directive" does  not  have a  statutory                                                               
definition.   The  Division typically  issues an  order, and  the                                                               
process for  this is defined in  statute.  In regard  to the word                                                               
"require", she explained that there  may be circumstances related                                                               
to insolvency  or increased risk  of financial  impairment, which                                                               
would then  require an internal  control report  from management.                                                               
The Division is working with  the industry to change the language                                                               
in Section 2(i), because "for good cause" is not defined.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:12:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MAX  MERTZ, Certified  Public  Accountant  (CPA); Partner,  Elgee                                                               
Rehfeld Mertz,  LLC, stated  that he  has been  working as  a CPA                                                               
since 1989, and in  Alaska since 1992.  He noted  that he is also                                                               
the  chair of  the  Board of  Public  Accountancy ("the  Board"),                                                               
although  he is  not speaking  on behalf  of the  Board.   He has                                                               
discussed this issue with the  Alaska Society of Certified Public                                                               
Accountants  (ASCPA),  which  shares  his views.    He  expressed                                                               
concern  with  the language  in  Section  1, which  requires  the                                                               
registration  of CPA  firms.    He shared  his  belief that  this                                                               
section should be  deleted, as the Board regulates  both CPAs and                                                               
CPA firms  in Alaska.  He  explained that CPAs must  be licensed,                                                               
and  are subject  to  the Accountancy  Act  in Alaska  Associated                                                               
Regulations.   Additionally,  CPAs must  maintain good  standing,                                                               
and conform  to the standards  of the profession as  contained in                                                               
the American  Institute of  Certified Public  Accountants (AICPA)                                                               
code of  professional ethics.  Certified  public accountants must                                                               
also  undergo a  regular peer  review, and  maintain a  system of                                                               
quality controls.  He stated that  a CPA must maintain a level of                                                               
competence in any  industry that he or she  audits, including the                                                               
insurance  industry.   He  shared his  belief  that the  existing                                                               
regulatory  infrastructure  for  CPAs  is  sufficient  to  ensure                                                               
adequate  protection of  the public,  and an  additional tier  of                                                               
regulation  is not  needed.   He  stated that  for  the past  two                                                               
years, the  AICPA and the NAIC  have been working on  model rules                                                               
that  are   to  go  into   effect  in  2010.     These  stipulate                                                               
qualifications for  CPAs performing the  audits of insurers.   He                                                               
shared his  belief that the  language should be changed  to allow                                                               
for the adoption of these model rules once they are completed.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  asked whether  these concerns  were shared  with Ms.                                                               
Hall prior to today's meeting.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MERTZ  replied no, and said  that this issue was  not brought                                                               
to his attention until the previous day.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  shared his understanding  that HB 170  contains NAIC                                                               
model language.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:16:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  L.  GEORGE,  representing  the  American  Council  of  Life                                                               
Insurers (ACLI),  stated that the ACLI  is in support of  HB 170.                                                               
The ACLI believes  that this adds credibility to  the solvency of                                                               
the insurance industry.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON noted  that Mr.  George  served as  director of  the                                                               
Division for many years.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:16:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HALL,  in regard to Mr.  Mertz's concerns, said that  this is                                                               
not the first  time this concern has been raised.   She explained                                                               
that  the  term  "register"  is  currently  used  in  the  annual                                                               
statement instructions.   This is  where all the  audit standards                                                               
are referenced,  and this  is not  a new  requirement.   She said                                                               
that  the intent  behind the  enabling language  is to  adopt the                                                               
model NAIC rule.   She said that  while there may be  a number of                                                               
requirements  for CPA  firms that  perform  audits, the  Division                                                               
does not have any statutory authority  or oversight of CPAs.  She                                                               
stated that  statutory requirements are  needed in order  to take                                                               
action against or remove a CPA firm.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:18:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS stated that he appreciates the work done                                                                  
by the Division.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON closed public testimony.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:18:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  moved to  report HB  170 out  of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.   There being no objection,  HB 170 was reported  from the                                                               
House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:19:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Labor and Commerce Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at                                                                  
3:19 PM.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

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